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DataFlux President and CEO of data quality, and governance
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| Tony Fisher President and CEO of DataFlux |
You expect senior executives like DataFlux President and CEO Tony Fisher to be upbeat in prosperous times, but to know Fisher is to understand that his attitude doesnt change with the business barometer. Since 1986 when he joined SAS to his last seven years heading up DataFlux, Fishers upbeat energy and curiosity have been keys to his companies success. He recently sat down with DM Review Editorial Director Jim Ericson to relate his current view of data quality, master data and governance.
DMR: As a wholly owned subsidiary of SAS, how does
DataFlux bring a big picture to the marketplace?
Tony
Fisher: We look at DataFlux as a best-of-breed vendor with an
established platform of data quality technologies. SAS is best of breed in
several areas: analytics, decision support, data warehousing and business
intelligence. Data quality technology is fundamental to SAS initiatives, but the
two companies are pursuing separate opportunities. There are synergies in the
technologies, though to some degree we view them separately. We set it up like
this to take advantage of all the opportunities that are out there.
DMR: Im asking partly because of all the acquisitions
in the market and the big platform messages from Oracle, SAP and
IBM.
TF: Things are happening in our industry for
different reasons. You have SAP buying Business Objects but keeping the brand as
an operating unit. You have Oracle rolling in Hyperion and deep-sixing the brand
over time. Microsofts strategy was also about buying technology, but I read
that they might buy 20 companies in 2008 and keep them independently branded.
Right now the opportunities are of different types according to business needs.
One set of people in the organization looks at operational data, and another
group looks at BI. Sometimes they talk to each other and sometimes they dont,
so we take advantage of platforms dedicated to different opportunities. Over
time well see more of a migration to a blended BI and analytics strategy. At
that time, there will be alternatives and decisions to make about how DataFlux
and SAS move forward, but its a little premature to talk about that now.
DMR: The data platforms do seem to be maturing
though.
TF: Yes, if you are looking at the mature areas
of the market. Organizations have begun piecing together processes across
different parts of the organization, and thats driving platform consolidation.
It makes sense, but then you see a lot of innovation at smaller companies thats
growing and evolving, and eventually the same will happen to them. Theyll be
bought out and integrated into larger platforms. I dont see that cycle changing
too much.
DMR: One current cycle of interest is in master data
management (MDM) where DataFlux and many other large vendors are seriously
committed. Why is MDM drawing so much interest in the current context of
business priorities?
TF: The real relevance is making
sure data is fit for the purpose of the organization. We all know about the
explosion of data going on. The other thing is that data is now treated as a
corporate asset. Any airline knows their airplanes, reservation systems,
maintenance schedules, the age of the fleet and how that fits their plans. Most
organizations havent been treating data like that until recently, and now its
absolutely huge and getting the appropriate sponsorships and funding in
organizations.
DMR: The Fortune 1000 companies I talk to are already
sounding much more ambitious about MDM programs versus projects.
TF: Ultimately, MDM is about all the domains in an
organization. Its also true that some domains are more critical to your
organization, so different purposes drive an organization to MDM. Is it an
aspect of compliance? If its Sarbanes-Oxley, financial data is your primary
focus. If its watch list compliance, customer data is the focus. MDM spans all
these domains, and as you plan, you need to think globally about how things
ultimately piece together. You cannot realistically do it all at once, so you
make sure you plan for all the domains and lines of business and implement them
as the business dictates.
DMR: Youve told me in the past that compliance is the
biggest driver of MDM you come across. That surprises me a
bit.
TF: Its one of probably three main areas, but
compliance is big. By definition, compliance is looking at different parts of
your organization that dont necessarily communicate, dont have integrated
applications, and you have to rationalize information from across your
organization to prove compliance. Weve seen time and time again that
organizations will say theyre in compliance. Auditors come in and say, Your
report indicates you are in compliance; now, prove your report is accurate. In
that case, organizations just throw up their hands because theyve no cohesion
of data and cant reproduce what theyve done. The same applies to a second
driver we see in customer relations, which is about making sure you know whether
your data is in your call center, in your database marketing system or in your
financial systems. A third area we see a lot of is what you might call
operational efficiency, or making sure your operational systems are operating to
the highest capacity they can. We have an $8 billion customer that is
rationalizing indirect spend - all the things they buy that dont actually go
into the products they make. Its the computers and paper and desks, but [to the
system] a curved desk or a black desk or a round desk were all different things.
They use our technology to rationalize and go to suppliers with category
requirements and save a lot of money. In every case, you need data quality and
matching technologies along with good data management techniques.
DMR: That also sounds like a segue to governance, which
is not really a technology issue.
TF: Thats exactly
right. There are technologies that are important in governance, but governance
is a business issue, and that is the real shift we have seen over the last year.
A few years ago, data quality was done as an afterthought, with IT handling the
little tactical chores. Data governance is much broader than that; its about
the business making sure the data across your organization fits the needs of
your business, is consistent and has the same meaning no matter where you are in
your business. It requires people who dont usually talk to each other to decide
what a customer is, what the important attributes are and where the best place
is to get the attributes. Governance allows you to put business savvy into the
data so it does indeed reflect the needs of your business.
DMR: DataFlux is a technology company, not a systems
integrator or consulting house. Whats your interest in the governance
discussion?
TF: Several years ago when everything was
tactical, the biggest problem was convincing an organization that data quality
problems were having a negative impact on their operations. You cant go to an
executive, even a CIO, and talk about data quality. They dont want to hear
that. But when you start talking about data governance and the way data impacts
things like risk and compliance, corporate governance, operational systems and
customer relationships, all of a sudden you can talk to anybody. This idea of
data as a corporate asset drives the success of very broad initiatives that have
revenue or cost benefits, very tangible things a CEO will listen to.
DMR: Dont the system integrators provide most of the
advice in this case though?
TF: Id love tell you I can
sell you a box of data governance, but I cant. However, DataFlux is evolving
with the market and moving from tactical to strategic data quality
implementations. To do that, we must have expertise in house to provide
high-level strategic analysis and planning to help clients understand policy
changes and personnel changes that will have to take place in order to succeed.
Having said that, you are correct to say that a lot of advice, especially in
large organizations, is provided by systems integrators. Sometimes its the big
integrators, and sometimes its smaller ones with expertise in a particular
area. So yes, they are becoming a critical part of our ecosystem, and were
making sure they understand what DataFlux provides to the overall picture,
including data governance assessments. We have become much more expert in this
area because we see it time and time again. One interesting thing Ive seen
lately is a shift across industries toward IT taking a drivers role in data
governance as a part of the business that knows the business. We definitely see
a much more business-savvy IT organization, especially in some of the bigger
companies. Theyre saying, were providing these services on behalf of the
business, but we havent got it quite right or were not giving them what they
think theyre getting. Seeing IT starting to drive a lot of this data governance
activity is a pretty curious shift I really didnt expect.
Jim Ericson is editor in chief of BI Review (www.bireview.com) and editorial director of DM Review, SourceMedia publications. You can reach him at Jim.Ericson@sourcemedia.com.
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